Court Says Marine Porn No Big Deal

Sgt. Matthew W. Simmons took active duty leave from the Marine Corps Band to go star in some gay porno movies under the stage names “Christian Jade” and “Adam.”

He got himself in trouble when he wore part of his Marines uniform in some of the videos and identified himself as a Marine in some “behind-the-scenes” footage shot alongside one of his movies. After guilty-plea convictions on several charges, Simmons took his case to the U.S. Navy-Marine Corps Court of Criminal appeals.

The court ruled that Simmons did not technically violate the ban on making commercial use of his uniform, even though he was paid $10K for his performances:

“We are also not satisfied, on the basis of this record, that the appellant’s statements or wear of uniform items may create an inference of service endorsement of the activities depicted. The appellant never wore a complete ‘uniform,’ so the general public could never receive ‘visual evidence of the authority and responsibility vested in the individual by the United States Government.’ He did not voice any Marine support for what he was doing or any service views on the propriety or impropriety of his conduct.”

Aspiring military lawyers can read the entire decision here. We’re not doing any linking here, but if you want to learn more about the details of Sgt. Simmons’ budding film career, Gawker can hook you up with that. (via Suits & Sentences)

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227 Comments

  1. Elijah says:

    The big trouble with **** is that if downloaded one will find his computer full of worms, hooks, and viruses. *** is the strongest urge a person has. Just seeing the naked body makes it stronger. Its the best trap internet crooks have.

  2. Elijah says:

    Many bunches of thanks to the administrators of this page.

  3. Mark says:

    I’m sick to my stomach after reading that.

  4. Mark says:

    “(Simmons) was an active-duty bandsman. He took leave to appear in several commercial pornographic videos that involved sodomy with numerous other men, by his own account being paid $10,000.00 for his performances. Some of the videos included shots of him wearing his Marine dress blue coat with the Marine Corps device, decorations, and rank insignia affixed; others showed him wearing a Marine physical training jacket; and at one point he mentioned that he was a Marine. Out-takes from the videos were used to advertise the videos on a website, and one of those out-takes showed the (him) wearing the blue coat.”

  5. Bargis Tryhol says:

    Absolutely disgusting. So, here’s what the ramifications are of having homosexuals in the military.
    What is wrong with this guy? How can he disgrace his uniform, the Corp, and America by these actions.
    If anyone needed a knuckle sandwich it’s this guy!

    • Dale says:

      Sorry, but this has nothing to do with the long overdue repeal of DADT.

      He’s not the first, and certainly not the last, service member to appear in such a film. That the previous “actors” were in “straight” **** makes them no less disgusting.

      This POS just happens to be the subject of the article.

      And yes, I most heartily disagree with the ruling of the court on this case.

  6. Sgt. D says:

    We don’t give a **** about this stupid topic. Stop making Gay headlines as if they are special. That’s part of the problem. We’ll post Gay articles all day but hide any article about a Troops faith. So much for equality!

  7. shotbag says:

    west coast marines been known to make ***** flicks since WW2, neither homo nor hetro makes any differrance, it’s the fact he introduced the USMC dress blue uniform into this garbage, I was taught that the Class A or Dress uniform is SACRED, it is the same as our Flag & is always respected, & never disgraced, it represents the millions of Soldiers Sailors Airmen Coast Guardsmen & Marines that have given their life or sacrificed for our country & our way of life. An this puke is suppost to be an NCO? he should be turned over to Al Gray, or Bill Stenslin or J W Borum for Clp Punishment.

    • CPL. E. says:

      What do you expect! he is a “Band” Marine!

      • Retired AF WSO says:

        You have never had to suffer through an Air Force Singing Sergeants or Airmen of Note concert either. After 30 minutes of listening to that, you fantasize about razor blades and cutting your own wrists just to make the stupid performance stop.

        Just joking but you know what I mean.

    • Retired AF WSO says:

      Shotbag, sorry to kill your fantasy, but there is a market audience for videos depicting mainly male but sometimes females Marines in uniform doing all sorts of things. As stated before, don’t buy the videos if you do not like them.

      In the Air Force we were always taught that it is all about the “AIRMEN” and the “Mission”. We were not obsessed over our uniforms. You’ve seen Air Force uniforms — nothing to get excited about.

      Trust me, they are lame and boring.

  8. mike says:

    i believe this so called marine should be busted in rank to private ‚since he dont respect the marine uniform„then again hes fully taking advantage of the new rulling for gays.this is just unbelievable that he is getting away with this hopefully he’ll have aids and die

  9. Grumpy says:

    He qualifies to be on the Prez body guard staff.

    • Retired AF WSO says:

      Why should he be on the White House “open the door” staff?

      A little anti-Obama for ending DADT are we?

      Disclaimer: Obama was the better of the two. Imagine Sarah Palin at the Naval Observatory. Worse yet, imagine her & Todd in the Oval Office.

      And to think one wonders why this former Republican voted for Obama.

      Disclosure. I am now a independent registered voter.

  10. MARINE Mike says:

    Whether he is a ****** or straight, makes no difference. He dishonored the Corps. He should be “drummed out” of my beloved Corps “Old School Style.”

  11. Dave says:

    I’m waiting for someone to claim that he played the skin flute while a band member. I’m from the early 60’s Corps and if this stuff was happening while I was in it sure wasn’t made public. I find it appalling that he gets celebrity status
    over this and disgusting that he felt compelled to disgrace his uniform in such a manner. I was never much for this old Corps, new Corps stuff but I’m beginning to believe in the old Corps and glad I was part of it. Hard to say for sure but I seriously doubt I would join todays Corps.

  12. When I was in Corps (1966–68) you’d get kicked out if you were a peter puffer!!! I even know of some guys who said they were ***** so they could get out . Times have changed and I know I wouldn’t want to serve with homosexuals.

    • Retired AF WSO says:

      Mr. Sherman,

      Homosexuals probably did not want to serve with you! Trust me Chuck, you did, they did, you just didn’t know it. Can’t deal with that? Sorry.

  13. Dudley says:

    Why did he have to disgrace the uniform, I don’t care what kind of ****. The uniform represents the Corps and it has no place in **** movies. He should get has *** kicked out for this garbage.

  14. Sgt. Sanchez says:

    My eyes watered after reading this article. I have never read something so disgusting in my life. Who would do this to the uniform and further more who would publish an article like this. Boy the Corps. sure has changed over the years. This boy should be ashamed for dishonering the entire Marine Corps. (former and present).…. ITS JUST FREAKIN SICK.…..

    • Retired AF WSO says:

      Sgt. Sanchez, if that is the most disgusting thing that you have read or seen, then you are truly blessed. Some of the reports I have had to read and write in my career were really disgusting and sad.

      Come on, a stupid Marine probably soon to be kicked out of the Marines for appearing in an adult movie in his uniform? Was it tacky for him to do that? Yes it was but after continuous war since the start of the first Gulf War in 1991 and all the lives lost since — I find that disgusting and sad.

      Some pasty white Marine in a uniform doing a stupid video should not even appear on your radar.

      Some people in this forum might need to reset their priorities toward the matters that really matter like these ongoing wars, the economy and oh, so much more.

      The USMC is about Marines — just that! Don’t obsess over clothing and we all know how the USMC obsesses over that! Don’t!

      The USAF has been obsessing over their uniforms during the past 15 years and they really don’t need to do that!!

      • MARINE Mike says:

        One earns the right to wear the Marine Corps Dress Blues by earning the title Marine. The fudge-packer disgraced my Marine Corps by the disgusting thing’s actions on film while wearing portions of the uniform.

        You were in the Air Force, you have no clue about the Corps.

  15. MR.Bill says:

    What ever happened to conduct unbecoming a Marine. He should be drummed out of the Corps.

  16. Larry V says:

    Chesty Puller and Dan Dailey must be spinning in their graves!

  17. randy says:

    The guy should just make his money and keep his mouth shut about being a marine and shouldn’t have worn the uniform. He’s making big bucks but should keep it undercover. I always thought that marines were a little funny and now I know for sure. There’s numerous gay marines who respect the uniform, their service, and the guys they serve with.

  18. heath says:

    Conduct Unbecoming a marine. NUFF SAID

  19. Retired AF WSO says:

    As a retired AF Officer, I think some in this forum need to get a life and worry about the real issues affecting this country. Stupid, pasty white skinned Marines appearing in adult videos in or out of uniform is a non issue. Spare us all the “the uniform and flags are sacred” BS! Sure, those videos are stupid but apparently there is a market for that First Amendment protected type entertainment.

    If you don’t like the idea of pasty white Marines appearing this type of video, don’t watch them or by them. Secondly, for the Marines who think it is cute for their wives to put on the USMC Dress Blue’s jacket and pose “all pretty and sweet” you are putting yourself into the same arena as the pasty gay Marine.

    I can think of more than a couple of Articles in the UCMG that may apply to the Marine. If not, so be it. If you don’t like the court decision– deal with it and move on with your life.

    Deal with the fact that Marine uniforms, flags and other military things will always appear in adult videos, straight or gay. Again, if you don’t like the subject matter don’t consume it.

    That simple!

  20. Nick says:

    I understand why a Retired Air Force WSO does not understand Marines, he is not one of us and has no idea how much tradition guides our branch of service.
    The USAF did not exist until 1947, before that it was another Army or Navy job.

    I believe there are a number of articles covered under the UCMJ that apply to this situation besides the General Article.

    I remember jumping through hoops to take college classes when I was injured and not allowed to perform the duties attached to my MOS.
    I remember at another duty station having to jump through hoops again so that I could work off duty (Ride along portion of my College Criminal Justice education.)

    Here this guy is taking a job that no officer could approve of that could put his fellow Marines at risk of certain STD’s and blood-borne pathogens associated with prostitution.

    • Retired AF WSO says:

      You are right Nick, I might not understand first hand the Marines but DO give a bit of credit about knowing at least something about USMC its tradition. As a “MARINE BRAT” my dad was in the USMC 1952 — 1984. I’ve been around just a bit and I think that I know a bit more thank you think that I do.

      The USMC is no more or no less special than the other military branches they are all equal, each with unique specialties. Thank you very much for reminding me that the USAF became a separate branch on September 18, 1947 with the implementation of the National Security Act of 1947. Do give the U.S. Air Force Academy some credit for teaching me just a wee bit of Air Force history and other subjects of matter.

      No, you will not be seeing me at the Marine Ball on November 22nd either.
      DEAL with the fact that there apparently is a market for movies featuring Marines in Uniform having ***. Deal with that fact. If you don’t want to view those videos — don’t! They are not my cup of tea either but it is protected speech and you are not going to stop young and really stupid young Marines in San Diego from appearing in those films — straight or gay.

      About SDT’s and other really NASTY blood-born pathogens associated with prostitution. STD’s are an equal opportunity disease. So, I will ignore your veiled anti-gay innuendo.

      About STD’s. If anyone as been to Clark AB, I was there when I my dad was stationed nearby during Vietnam and later myself just before it closed. Was also stationed at Osan, AB, with their nearby Juicy Girl Drinki GI bars with the little SDT free tags the “ladies” had to wear.

      In closing: San DIego is a HOT BED of adult military uniformed themed videos. Sorry that the USMC has better looking uniforms that the audience goes for. It is doubtful that anyone would want to see an adult star appearing in USAF service dress blues. It looks like a Delta airline pilots uniform — boring.

      On the subject of USMC dress blues, I think that the Officer’s are better as their dress blues lack the red piping is just more subdued. I can say that when my dad was stationed in D.C. those parties he had to attend in that USMC evening mess thing with the vampire cape was just a bit over the top. I do once remember his driver, a Ssgt rolling his eyes over that.

  21. Retired AF WSO says:

    Marine Mike, I firmly believe that I know much, much more about the U.S. Marine Corps, it’s long history its long great list of traditions than you will ever know about the U.S. Air Force, Army or Navy or Coast Guard. You appear hardheaded, narrow minded and act in your words as a peulant child. The planet Earth does not revolve around the U.S. Marine Corps.

    Marine Mike, how long have you or were you in the Marines? In my case, it was 1980 — 2006. The first four as an academy cadet for whatever that may be worth.

    Quit the fudge packing comments as HETEROSEXUALS engage in that “act” just as much as homosexuals do. It was always fun to listen to my straight military friends as to how their wives tried out new and long vibrating toys on their “men” who just went wild with pleasure. So your narrow minded bigoted argument that only gays explore the Hershey Highway are totally invalid. There are boatloads of clinical studies that will prove this case. Get your head out of your religious intolerance don’t try to dictate how we live our lives. I am always, almost every day amazed as to why heterosexuals spend so much time thinking about gays and their *** lives. Are you jealous because we don’t have that hag fat nagging wife who just had another “oops” baby? Or the wife who entertains other men while you are deployed having his “oops baby? That hurts doesn’t it! Just because you are a failure in your own bedroom accomplishments don’t use that as an excuse to bash gays.

    Just to kill your USMC fantasy life, I spent four years of my life with a USMC AV-8B pilot. He was then and I presume now just pretty much a normal Marine.

    As much as Marines earn the right to wear the Marines Corps Dress Blue uniform or any other combination USMC uniforms. Have you forgotten that at least in my case upon earning my commission at the U.S. Air Force Academy I didn’t earn the right to wear my little gold 2lt bars or to wear the Air Force uniform? Or the same would not apply to someone in the Army, Navy or Coast Guard.

    With “earning the right” to wear the service specific uniform what exceptional right does a Marine have that we don’t? Are you able to put down your attitude for a moment and type out a straight to the point argument that Marines are somehow more special than the other branches?

    That stupid Marine disgraced himself and HIS uniform by appearing in that movie. His stupid actions are no reflection on you, or other Marines or frankly anyone else — just himself. Get over yourself Marine Mike.

  22. Retired AF WSO says:

    Chesty Puller and Dan Dailey are not spinning in their graves. They are dead, buried in coffins.

    • MARINE Mike says:

      As for your knowledge of the Marine Corps, the birthday is not the 22nd of November. I highly doubt your veracity.

      As for the Air Force Academy, I think you are a poser. Just saying. The Uniform Code of Military Justice is not the UCMG.

    • IRA says:

      Retired AF WSO says:

      October 5, 2011 at 12:54 am

      Chesty Puller and Dan Dailey are not spinning in their graves. They are dead, buried in coffins

      you may be right, BUT(sis) to a MARINE, EVEN DEAD, THEY ARE STILL A MARINE, AND IF THEY WANT SPIN, THEY CAN SPIN. AND TO BE WHAT U R(G4Y) KEEP YOUR INPUT FOR (G4Y).

    • Jean Bryant says:

      You are one sick SOB. What my husband went thru so that jerks like you could live and also have freedom to do as you do. Get a job go door to door and ask for a job. You have to much time on your hands.Would your mother be proud of all the you spew.And do not go there I am a mother a widow and also a senior. I respect you but please leave my marines alone.

  23. david green says:

    I don’t care if your gay or not just do your job and don’t disrespect the blues your in the wrong tret them as equlles not specal .If that was a straight marine would they have let it go ? I think not wake up !

    • Retired AF WSO says:

      Naturally, headlines about a Gay Marine doing uniform oriented movies will generate a lot of press and sell a lot of papers/commercial time. There is also the subject of gay-for-pay featuring some Marines in dress blues. That said, who is going to stop a non military or former Marine from donning authentic USMC dress blues and preforming on camera? There are no real laws to ban that thankfully and the movie “Marine Bukkake”, well that was a real interesting one and you thought that this one Marine showed disrespect to the USMC dress blues? I’d hate to see the dry cleaning bill for the latter.

      Accept the fact that these movies will be made and just ignore them. FORGET the respect for the uniform because if there is money to be made, USMC dress blues or anything else will be used to turn a profit from this type of film making.

      Deal with reality you can’t change it.

  24. Retired AF WSO says:

    And to think that heterosexual Marines are of SUPERIOR MORAL CHARACTER check this out.
    http://​goodbyevanilla​.thumblogger​.com/​h​o​m​e​/​l​o​g​/20…

    You may call yourself a MARINE at the conclusion of basic training but can you call yourself a gentleman?

    • IRA says:

      Before and After, and even now, 40+ yrs later, I AM STILL A MARINE. I am proud to be a MARINE. and I would not ever disrespect MY MARINE CORP. SEMPER FI

  25. Sgt. K says:

    This man is not a Marine he is one of the 10% that slips through the cracks. Ones moral opinion of **** being right or wrong is not the case. His actions violate the number 1 core principals that the Marines is built on. HONOR It is not honorable to star in a gay **** or any **** and display your uniform. A knuckle sandwitch? He deserves much worse for this. lets start with 10–20 in the brig. O there is so much i would like to do to this guy… then again i must remember just because he lost his honor does not mean i need to lose mine.

    • Retired AF WSO says:

      Sgt. K, why would you lose your honor due to the actions of another Marine? Your honor is determined strictly by your actions not the actions — or very poor actions of others.

      Again, I start to see the divergence between the enlisted mind and the mind of an officer.… You have to think in the broad abstract and to look in many different directions to take in the whole picture. You must look at the whole wide aspect picture, don’t look at it through a toilet paper roll tube.

    • Maynard says:

      It’s officers like AF WSO who endanger enlisted personnel and obviously don’t understand the meaning of being a Marine. There is no such thing as “I” in the Marine Corps. Somethings are plainly right or wrong or require just a yes or no response. Thinking in the “broad abstract” in a topic like this shows just how condescending our leadership can be especially if you are fighting from the backseat of a jet flying at 30,000 feet. What this Marine did was wrong, period. No need to think in the abstract or worse yet overthink things like this court did.
      He represented himself as Marine and wore part of his uniform which means he was guilty. Pure and simple.

    • Gee says:

      THANK YOU SGT K
      SEMPER FI

    • ldh says:

      AF WSO, the only divergence here is your arrogance and stupidity. I do not understand what your confounding desire to look at reality abstractly will accomplish. Did you even read what the Sgt wrote? If you did you clearly did not understand it. “there is so much i would like to do to this guy… then again i must remember just because he lost his honor does not mean i need to lose mine.” Sgt K is being the bigger man, just as he is by ignoring you. likening the Sgt’s view to looking through a toilet paper roll is incredibly condescending especially considering that you are wrong. Your years at the academy didn’t teach you a lick of leadership did they? I’ll venture to guess that no airman saluted you, just the insignia on your collar.

    • IRA TATUM says:

      How about a good old“BLANKET PARTY” , 4 guys w/sock&soap and a blanket. LIGHTS OUT.
      NNNAAAA, just a BCD.

    • Jean Bryant says:

      Way to go Sgt K I fully agree. A widow of a proud marine.

    • Demond says:

      He’d lose honor because it shows he might be gay… being a military man isn’t a cover for I’m not gay (anymore). LoL Sgt K it’s okay to come out of the closet ya know.

  26. Sgt. K says:

    Dear RETIRED AF WSO

    I am sorry to say that you don’t know the Marine Corp. You dont understand because you are not a Marine. This is something that you can only understand if you are a Marine. Sorry sir its just a Marine thing. You dont understand it and never will. Sgt K U. S. MARINE

  27. Retired AF WSO says:

    Sgt. K, respectfully, you are truly NUTS if you think that I know NOTHING about the USMC. Do me a favor; in three cohesive paragraphs or more, tell me what it is to be a Marine and why the USMC is superior to the other branches of the military? I look forward to DEMOLISHING every point you have to say with FACTS and FIGURES.

    Up to the task? This retired Lieutenant Colonel is waiting.

    • MARINE Mike says:

      Poser

    • GYSGT OF MARINES says:

      Cheers Sir…You have 100% valid point. These “HARD CHARGERS” disrespecting you are ignorant to other Servicemember’s knowledge. Most OTHER servicemembers know Marine Corps History more than actual Marines these days…It is sad to say but it is true. This “New Corps”…I applaud you and enjoy reading your posts. You are the only one who sounds intelligent out of them all…and this is coming from a Marine…GO AHEAD fellow Marines…disagree if you must. But he is right. You know it and are just too damn stubborn to agree, with all of your “PRIDE” SEMPER FIDELIS…Gunny sends…

    • Retired Master Chief says:

      I don’t know about your knowledge of Marines but you clearly don’t do much to show the respect and leadership I expect from a LtCol retired or active. I get that you have an agenda and I spent collateral time with the AF during my 32 years of active duty and I get the whole AF attitude which tends toward holier than thou, but dragging your rank around in this mess speaks volumes about how you wish your rank and service represented.

      During my active duty time, I can say there was a time when the Marines had different standards, but sadly that changed and I can’t say I’ve seen that recently. Of course that applies the all branches; the standards and culture have changed much just since Viet Nam.

  28. Retired AF WSO says:

    After a little bit of research some very early facts and figures are in regards to military ****: In my early research, I restricted websites to U.S. produced films. The vast majority of military themed websites and movies are heavy duty USMC themed. Distant second, U.S. Navy followed by a distant third by U.S. Army portrayals and very, very far fourth place is U.S. Air Force, just two gay and one heterosexual website, all very poor quality. USCG turned up a big fat ZERO. Portraying USCG personnel in big orange life preservers might not be what the audience wants; perhaps a small niche who are into Coast Guard personnel wearing blue helmets, blue flight suits and big orange C02 inflated life preservers may stimulate some but not enough to make money on.

    USMC dress blues, everyone can relate to that and hence pasty white prison pallor heavy tattooed trash bag Marines making $10,000 for a weekend of movie making.

    I conclude that many in the USMC are overly sensitive in the large amount of gay portrayals of the U.S. Marine Corps. Oddly, the Marines in some of these features portray the marine in a more submissive roll compared to the sailor and or civilians.

    Perhaps Sgt. K is correct that there are some facts about the USMC I simply do not know? Are the portrayals of these Marine themed films accurate?

    • Danny says:

      Your statistics prove our point. You must remember WSO — these are FANTASY films. Let’s define fantasy:

      1. imagination, especially when extravagant and unrestrained.
      2. the forming of mental images, especially wondrous or strange fancies; imaginative conceptualizing.
      3. a mental image, especially when unreal or fantastic; vision: a nightmare fantasy.
      4. Psychology . an imagined or conjured up sequence fulfilling a psychological need; daydream.
      5. a hallucination.

      Please note that strange. hallucination, unrestrained are in there. Try again WSO — I will reiterate my comments earlier about you suffering from a lifelong questioning of whether you had what it takes to be a Marine. One last question: How is it you ended up in the back seat of the plane instead of at the controls?

  29. jbar says:

    I am so sick and tired of members of other branchs of the service telling me how I should feel about my uniform. Marines earn the right to wear their Blues. Your father may have served in the Corps, but you did not. You are totally clueless in regards to the pride we have in our uniform. Do all Marines a favor and restrict your comments to the Air Force.

  30. DMM says:

    Brig & court martial.

  31. Danny says:

    Retired AF WSO — Perhaps you could “broaden your vision” to recognize the fact that you have ZERO experience at being a Marine, just like I have no idea what it is to be an Air Force officer. Although I did spend some time on an Air Force base in 85 and I have to admit you guys had it pretty good. You are awful judgemental of Marines that don’t fit your view for someone spewing the GLBT propaganda.

  32. Danny says:

    I have reread your comments several times and can come to the conclusion that you are envious of the Marines and have gone through life wondering if you had waht it takes. I can answer that question based on your comments: You do not have what it takes.

  33. Hammerbw says:

    What do that suppose to mean? We all have to pass bootcamp. This is the dumbest comment on this thread.

  34. higgy6072 says:

    Look homosexuals are dirty mother tubbers, however in this nation we have constitutional rights that we as Marines have sworn to uphold and defend. This rights are vital to Americans regardless of race, religion, or sexual preference.. with having said that let’s quit giving ****** the spotlight to prance around in like fairys on stage everytime a camera pops up like its a ***** and get back to doing what Marines are suppose to do.… Win wars and defend the oppressed, it sickened me to know our uniform is being disrespected but fuxk it man we have important things to worry about guys.….

  35. RT666Dog says:

    With all due respect, sir, the Marines are different because of our uniform and our culture. It sets us apart, whether we like it or not. We teach HONOR, COURAGE, COMMITMENT. We have leadership principles and leadership traits. We take pride in ourselves, our fellow Marines, and our uniform. My Brother was Air Force, now retired, and he sort of understands what I am saying as the Sgts. are also saying. This person took part of our HONOR when he misused the uniform for his own personal gain, regardless of what type of acts he was performing.

  36. Joe says:

    What on earth how is he not in trouble?!? Didn’t an Air Force SSgt get kicked out for posing in Playboy?!?I thought you couple do this while in active duty, seiously ***? It’s because he’s gay, and the court is afraid there will be ramifications for singleling him out for being gay… And that’s wrong so the guy is a que*r who cares the standards should still be applied to him.
    This is unfair to everyone else ho follows the rules. Plus isn’t he breaking the rule about sodomy?!?

  37. RT666Dog says:

    To All,

    It appears the Retired AF WSO is behaving in a troll-like manner. All of the replies from him appear to be confrontational, at best. Whether he is what he says or not, he has admitted he was NOT a Marine. A while back, Officers were no longer demeaned to be “gentlemen” as part of their commissioning. This is , in part, due to the actions of some officers, no doubt i.e. Tail Hook. Disregard at this time. It is plain to me that most of us who have been in the Corps all feel the offending person was wrong.
    As for the AF WSO, President Reagan is quoted as having said Most people go through life wondering if they made a difference, Marines don’t have that problem. Eleanor Roosevelt said we had the cleanest bodies, filithiest minds, highest morale, and lowest morals, God bless the United States Marine Corps. General MacArthur said the safest place in Korea was with a platoon of Marines. And there were others, but very few said much about any of the other services.
    Even the Chinese told their Soldiers to avoid the yellow legs as they fought more fiercely than the other Soldiers.

  38. Frank says:

    AF person. That’s right: “person.” You are a complete and utter Ignoramus. Your passionate, long-winded, and overdramatic replies are the first indicator of your immature and out of touch mind.
    You are a fool. I call you person because you do not rate to be addressed as an officer. You are clearly unfit to lead people from any service and you do not rate to talk to Marines of any rank, certainly not about Marine issues. You spew petty GLBT propaganda vomit while simultaneously trying to play some “respect me, I’m an officer” card. Idiot, you are in an Internet comment fight. Your rank (which is probably not real) holds no weight here. A retired LtCol has nothing better to do than argue about gay ****? Get a life poser. –from a Marine Officer.

  39. Greg says:

    I wont pretend to be a Marine, or know everything about the Marine Corp, but I was always taught that your actions, (and this was in preschool mind you) sets you, and those you are with, apart from others. Now, the Marine Corp is based on some simple concepts, like Honor, Courage, and Commitment. **** is fine, watch it or make it, does not bother me, and if you are okay with it degrading your uniform, hey I am not one to judge. But I, for whatever reason, cannot for the life of me find any Honor in selling your body for 10k, especially in wearing the Uniform of the Marine Corp. Also, keep in mind, the only reason we know about this is because he wore his uniform.. so he knows the value of it, and traded on it. That right there is a good good reason for an immediate discharge. A Marine, or any military person really, but a Marine should NEVER trade on his uniform for money. That is not only dishonest, its wrong. BEING a Marine is honorable, and its alright by me if you put it down on your job reference sheet or whatnot. But to be in the Corp and doing something like this? Its foul, and not because he is gay, but because he traded on his uniform, and disgraced the entire Marine Corp with his actions. Again, I am just a poolee, and do not know much, but I have had the Corp Principles drilled into my head for the last two years. This action by him is morally depraved, wrong, and twisted. He should do time, and then be Dishonorably Discharged, for Conduct Unbecoming.

  40. GYSGT OF MARINES says:

    At a MINIMUM this Marine should get charged with CONDUCT UNBECOMING of a Marine…I have known Marines to get charged wth that for doing MUCH less…****…I have seen Female Marines get charged for doing wet t-shirt contests..no affiliation to the Marine Corps on them whatsoever (except for their ID card I would assume) NOT that I condone it…but ****..That is indeed conduct UNBECOMING. I’m just saying…GAY or STRAIGHT…SEMPER FIDELIS MARINES.…Gunny sends…

    • Retired Master Chief says:

      BZ Gunny. Everyone who has been around for any length of time has seen the UCMJ art 134 used to take action for far lessor offenses. Uneven application of the law can’t possibly help good order and discipline, and certainly must create confusion. If this is where the new bar is then so be it. This really has nothing to do with the specific branch of service or the officer enlisted issues raised. If this is considered acceptable behavior then I for one would like to see some clear guidelines; where exactly are the out of bounds lines now? From here it looks like poor leadership.

  41. Dave says:

    The old saying, when you wrestle with pigs in the mud, after a while you began to realize that the pig is enjoying it applies here to our air force friend. I think he’s well intentioned but obviously biased towards the so called gay community. And i suppose that’s to be expected being that he is gay. His comments also come across as a little Dear Abbyish in that he’s attempting to counsel those that are less learned than he is…at least in his mind, e.g., “Accept the fact that these movies will be made and just ignore them. FORGET the respect for the uniform because if there is money to be made, USMC dress blues or anything else will be used to turn a profit from this type of film making. Deal with reality you can’t change it”.
    I think the majority of people that have made comments in here realize that flicks like these have been and will continue to be made. That is not the issue and that is not what I find disconcerting about this story. What bothers me…I can’t speak for others…is the fact that the U.S. Navy/Marine Corps Court of Criminal Appeals basically cleared this guy of any wrong doing. Doesn’t matter to me if he’s gay, heterosexual, white (pasty?), black, yellow Catholic, Mormon or a space alien, my personal opinion is he did something wrong and should be held accountable.

    • Frank says:

      Haha yea what is AF’s obsession w calling him pasty over and over?!? Case in point of how ignorant and bizarre this guy is.

  42. steve says:

    I wonder if he got a ***** in the showers at bootcamp

  43. ChristopherBlackwell says:

    Somehow I doubt he is the first Marine to star in a ***** film, gay or straight.. The main thing now is it is harder to keep something like that secret., thanks to the internet. As I recall in teh Vietnam War, *** was just about the number one subject of conversation among marines, sometimes in some detail, and especially in a war zone. Certainly most of the guys paid enough to get some.

    • Jammer says:

      He isn’t, there have been several occurrences of Marines and Sailors from Camp Pendleton getting busted for making ****, usually gay ****.

      As a matter of fact, there was a case in 1993 where it was claimed that over 500 Marines from Pendleton were involved in a gay **** ring.

      But that must be impossible, because that was 18 years ago, and everyone knows that there were no gays in the military before the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”.

  44. JAMES SIKO says:

    TO THE RETIRED AIR FORCE WARRENT OFFICER WHY DO’NT YOU TAKE YOUR COLLEGE EDUCATE BUTT BACK TO YOU NICE AIR CONDITION MILL VAN
    OR EVEN YOUR 9 TO 5 JOB YOU PEOPLE IN THE AIR FORCE DO NOT HAVE CLUE WHAT DISCPLINE OR EVEN HONORS IS
    LIKE i SAID GO SIT IN YOUR AIR CONDITION MILL VANS OR IN YOUR 4 STAR BARRACKS. WHILE THE TRUE MARINES EARN OUR BLOOD STRIPE YOUR NOTHING MORE THE A CILLIVAN IN UNIFORM

    • Jammer says:

      He’s not a Warrant, he’s a “Weapons System Operator”, which means that he was the equivalent on an NFO (that’s a Naval Flight Officer, the Marines have them too). I

      By the way, I don’t think you’re going to find too many civilians that regularly strap themselves into an e-seat and let someone else do the driving. But guys who carry a weapon and shoot at people are a dime a dozen.

      Now, why don’t you take your butt back to elementary school and learn some basic grammar and spelling. And while you’re at it, perhaps you could take a remedial lesson in respect.

      If you’re a Marine, act like one.

  45. Nick Nichols says:

    Conduct unbecoming ANY Marine regardless of sexual orientation. Whether he wore the uniform or not! What is our Corps coming to when we allow this kind of behavior to infest our ranks!

  46. votedemout says:

    Why is anyone responding to the AF-*** *****. He admitted he is a rump ranger and like others have said, more than likely he has never worn any uniform, much less an AF officers uniform for 26 years. USAF academy my a**! Son of a career Marine, again my a**!! His father would have recognized the traits and drown the sucker (pun intended) before any of his brother Marines noticed. Those of us who did wear the A&G understand all we need to understand, and no matter what mutts like this would like to believe there are very few Marines who share his sexual interests. DADT was a liberal BS program, an affront to the members of my brotherhood and many other service members. All homos should be cashiered, and if they feel they are being unfairly treated, they should launch an effort to eliminate women from any combat role, ‘bout the same deal. As to the band flutist, he should pack his sea bag and move to the Castro where he can have fun at the baths packing something else. Sickening couple of perverts. Nuff said….

  47. Jean Bryant says:

    So the cat is out of the bag. So you were a marine brat. All the hatred that is in you. So Sad So Sad

  48. Joe Zamorano says:

    My drill instructor (3079 at Parris Island) made us drop our towels and stand at attention for 5 minutes at a time when ever his night watch came up. He was busted for being gay — thanks for allowing him to get his willies at my expense! I was sick to my stomach with it — still am so to the ******* who said Semper Fi — Go Semper Fu@! yourself and your gay buddy.

    I have gay friends, I have no problem with people being gay BUT when you pull that crap what should you expect? Get out of the the USMC and move to west hollywood and we’ll have a beer but that was and is disgusting!

  49. NYBill says:

    You are correct, many people in various uniformed services have taken part in videos or photo sessions of dubious merit; in each case they were reprimanded or relieved of duty outright.

    If he were a normal man in the same situation, he would be a civillian by now…the Obama Administration is behind this verdict and the court is full of feckless lackeys bending(!) to PC pressure.
    I believe this character did this to go in your face with his unnatural leanings and desires and to disgrace the uniform. His goal was to disgrace our uniform and I do hope he receives the reception he deserves.
    I did not care when DADT was rescinded but this is way over the line and just what I expected; the transvestites and transsexuals are next.

    He wanted to be provocative, now let him live with his provocation.

  50. NYBill says:

    There is a thing called the Marine warrior ethos that you would never understand…When you have laid in the mus and faced your enemy face to face, get back to us with your pontificating horse spit.

    Actually, this is a matter between Marines, a family matter so to peak; there is nothing for you here, as you have so aptly demonstrated.

    I am reminded of something we learned in Latin class, “Stercorem pro cerebro habes.”

  51. NYBill says:

    What does Todd and Sarah Palin have to do with this?? Don’t answer, I aleady smell your crap coming a mile away…You are just one of those slimy trolls who go around dropping you imagined provocative turds on every discussion. Get lost, Stool.

    Just for the record, compared to the treason troll we have in the White House…They would be a day at the fair. Imagine that, real patriotic Americans in the White House; what a concept.

  52. NYBill says:

    Get lost, peter puffer, your stinkin’ up the place.

  53. NYBill says:

    We don’t need any advice from you…**** ant; Turn to and exit.

  54. NYBill says:

    Do they teach Racism in the A.F.? Pasty white? Would you prefer him to be a coal black?

    So far you have injected the Palins and Rrace into this discussion…Why do vagiphobes need to add other subjects to make their case.

    Do you know what I saw on the discovery channel, There are only two organisms that are attracted to the **** area…flies and homosexuals.

    • Jammer says:

      Really? Because I know a whole lot of folks, gay, straight and bisexual that all love both giving and receiving butt ***.

      Let’s face it, if straight people didn’t like it in the ******, it wouldn’t be in virtually every **** made today.

      On a more serious note however, if your intent was t

    • Jammer says:

      Really? Because I know a whole lot of folks, gay, straight and bisexual that all love both giving and receiving butt ***.

      Let’s face it, if straight people didn’t like it in the ******, it wouldn’t be in virtually every **** made today.

      On a more serious note however, if your intent was to somehow imply that homosexuals are on par with flies, then you’re just being a bigot.

  55. ElCapitan says:

    Recently after getting back from Afghanistan, I had the wonderful duty doing a command investigation on a Marine involved in gay p***n. The only difference was that he didn’t portray himself as a Marine or wear any portion of the uniform, therefore while disgusting, it technically wasn’t service discrediting. I had the unfortunate duty of having to check all of his “work” to verify this. In other words, I had to watch gay p***n as part of my investigation and it was not fun. I couldn’t even enjoy straight p***n for a month. The guy ended up getting separated with a non rec. Good riddance. They should get rid of this guy as well, especially considering he is a Sergeant and supposed leader. No one should have to take orders from someone who has *** for money. Now thanks to recent legislation, Sgt Simmons gets protected status and can play the Equal Opportunity card.
    As an aside, reading this makes me happy I just got out. I don’t want to lead or be led by people who wear their sexual deviance on their sleeve (after having to screen hours of gay p***n I can’t call it anything other than deviant). I can elaborate much more on why I think this and can provide concrete examples but I won’t right now. Suffice to say, I think things were fine before when people kept their bedroom behavior to themselves.

    • Sgt Joe says:

      El Capitan — That is the , and tha tis the big problem everywhere concerning this gays, they get protected status, not equal treatment. Same with Muslims and their push for rights. Something is real wrong here in this country, those politicians are not for America but the enemies of America.

  56. Cpl Kay says:

    Semper Fi big brother! Amen to that. I just got out of the Marine Corps, it changed too much in the past 6 years, the aren’t even allowed to train Marines properly in boot camp anymore.

  57. Jammer says:

    jbar said “Do all Marines a favor and restrict your comments to the Air Force.”

    Then kindly do all gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered people a favor and restrict your comments to the affairs of heterosexuals.

  58. john Ouellette says:

    I could care less what people do in thier personal lives,but, this guy id dead worng to have done that! He disgraced the Coorps,himself and his family. Getting paid for *** is against the law, he should have been kicked out with a BCD.

  59. Cpl Kay says:

    What the ****!? Okay, it’s one thing to be gay (because it is no longer the issue) but for a Matine to be in a ***** in the first place? I know of a lady Marine that went on stage at a strip club because it was her Birthday and she was NjP’d that next work week. She wasn’t wearing any Military stuff and she wasn’t even doing anything sexual. How can this gay dude get away with blatant article 32 violations? If he is in gay pron he should at least separate that completely from his Marine life. I have no problem with homosexuals but this situation is making me lose my ability to stand for this behavior, what he is saying from this is “I am gay and I will push the limits of what I can get away with now that DADT is gone„ and you wil have to deal with it because I am the untouchable gay Marine now, protected mby Obama himself,” I bet if I did the exact thing he did but in a straight ****, I would be a NJP’d for sure, and that IS a FACT.

  60. Michael Lambirth says:

    The Jar-Heads Lead the way. Proof Marines can suck the chrome off a bumper!

  61. Sgt 03 says:

    Dress Blues

    The most distinctive uniform
    in the military

    Every detail of the dress blues uniform reflects the proud legacy of Marines who have served for more than two centuries: 
     
    The buttons featuring the eagle and anchor have been on the uniform since 1804, making them the oldest military insignia in continued use. 
     
    The “blood stripe” runs down each trouser leg of the dress blues worn by noncommissioned officers, staff noncommissioned officers and officers. The solid red stripe became part of the uniform in 1849. Today, it serves to honor the memory of fallen comrades.  
     
    The collar of today’s dress blues reflects the original Marine uniform of the American Revolution, which had a high leather neck to help protect Marines from sword blows. 
     
    Because it embodies Marine Corps history, rigorous standards apply to wearing this uniform and every Marine upholds those standards with pride.

  62. Rich Russel says:

    Job Description: MOS 5511 is assigned to musicians who are enlisted “for duty with the United States Marine Band only.” They are appointed to the grade of staff sergeant upon their initial 4-year enlistment. These enlistees report directly to the Marine Band, Marine Barracks, Washington, DC for duty. They are permanently assigned to the Band and perform musical duties as an instrumentalist or music related technical duties as a member of the support staff. The Director, U.S. Marine Band recommends MOS 9811 promotions to CMC (MM) to fill T/O vacancies.

    This guy was as much a marine as Gomer Pyle except Pyle at least respected the uniform.

  63. Ovey Paul Sonnier says:

    I Know that his “Freinds” when he gets home should take “care” of him and correct his actions. A former Marine here.

  64. Ed Sunderland says:

    The overlying problem with ***s in the Military has not changed since they were banned from the beginning and that is-***s with rank forcing themselves on soldiers of lesser rank. This cat that acted in this type of movie is a skid mark on the Military underwear.

  65. Neil Franklin says:

    Hmmmmmm.….…they wouldn’t print *******.….…..

  66. hermes says:

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  67. NAVY Tom says:

    Oorah Mike. UCMJ Article 134: “Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special, or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.” A reasonable person would view this behavior as bringing discredit upon the armed forces even if all he was wearing — maybe so — was a fatigue hat with the insignia. The problem is with the JAG who prosecuted — not the appeals court — the case was argued poorly. When this dude returns to his unit, how will good order and discipline be affected?

  68. Ret Active Duty AFSe says:

    Retired AF WSO.

    You embarrass me with your comments. You DO NOT speak for me. If you were not obsessed with your uniform that is your cross to bear. Don’t try to pass your guilt off as it was a prevalent thing throughout the Air Force. I was a Security Policeman, performing Law Enforcement Duties my entire career. I obsessed about my uniform because people judged my installation and my Air Force by what they first saw when entering the installation. The Air Force preached about instilling public confidence in the military. You can’t do that by looking like a slob. If you missed that class, then you were asleep the entire time you were in the reserves. Do us a favor and if you have not, please do NOT reproduce.

  69. mala says:

    Why Ed Sunderland, why?

  70. Chuck M. says:

    Oh, man. What has my Marine Corps become? Just another sign of the fall of the world.

  71. Sgt Joe says:

    According to Obama, the gay guy is he talks about is the” toughest guy in the platoon” who “kills a lot of bad guys”. I don’t care how tough you are, if you are a sodomist you don’t belong in the Marine Corps. I’m seeing a whole lot of support now days from the military, making me so glad I have been out a long time now. It is a different military and certainly a different America on the horizon.

  72. No Jizya says:

    He should be dishonorably discharged. The Corps is about the intangibles — HONOR being the biggest on. He has disgraced us all.

  73. Proud USMC Wife says:

    The only positive note that I can think of is that as long as he continues to sway that way.. his genes will not be passed on… Thank God

  74. Demond says:

    I didn’t see the flick yet but unless he was wearing a complete uniform he shouldn’t be held. 10,000 wow that’s some change. Homo’s have been in the military forever so get over it. Just now they won’t be bounced out. If it’s not natural for a man on man hump then why won’t a dog or other animals care? We’re just conscious animals is our only difference. Good idea if everyone were only gay? Nope humanity would disappear is it wrong to get off on another guy or girl… nope. Not unless you only ever have *** with the intention of making a baby… then I may agree with your logic.

  75. Will says:

    First off, the fact that most commenters are saying it’s just a uniform, who cares, proves the point that us Marines are talking about. Marines hold our uniforms in higher regard than most troops in the other services. The uniform, and the pride with which it is worn, and the attention to detail, is something people who have never served in the Corps don’t get. Marines are proud of their service and the title. That’s why you rarely see Marines in public wearing cammies. That is not a uniform that should be seen in public. It’s a working uniform. Maybe in the obama military the title doesn’t mean anything, but it still does to me.

    Second, since the uniform is held in such high regard, it is an absolute disgrace to wear it in a ***** movie. Gay or not, it’s unbecoming a Marine, and is disrespectful to the country, and to the entire armed forces. Don’t you think our enemies see this crap and just sit back and laugh becuase they know we are destroying ourselves from within? Does anyone want to guess what would happen in China if this got out?

    There was a time when serving in the military meant that you were held to higher standard, and you were accountable for your actions. It’s this non-chelant attitude that will cripple the military.

    My concern with this new free-spirit, no consequence military is that no one will have the guts to discipline acts like this, becuase they will instantly be labled a homophobe, and sued. So the gays will get a pass, and everyone else will be punished for similar abhorrent behavior. It will only further weaken moral, and discipline among the rank and file troops. Discipline, selfless service, and a sense of being a part of something bigger than yourself are what makes the military great. Without that, we might as well give up.

  76. Demond says:

    if you were in the mud fighting the enemy ever as a marine then you would know the uniform is meaningless because when you’re covered and mud and tore up the uniforms are too… nothing to see but blood and mud. I feel the huge outcry is the underlying issue of … omg people may think I can be gay too… am I gay? may be I am.. oh no. That’s what’s at stake here. If you saw the movie and know the extent then okay. If you didn’t see the movie to know what this sgt did or did not do then you need to ****. I know I didn’t see it and an appropriate court saw and dismissed. You can watch it next time you surf gay **** in the middle of the night… then get back to the forum and let us know to what extent the corps is identified with in it. I mean technically wearing a piece and not complete uniform is UCMJ actionable in the Army (I was active Army; step brother was marines; he said never join the marines their losers; he served all the way from private to major the last I heard from him). We do need to abolish the marines it’s kind of stupid to have another budget and how many island wars have we fought in the past 50 years?

  77. Demond says:

    taking advantage of repealing DADT? So you’re saying it would be okay to wear half a uniform if he were s.e.x.in.g up a roomful of women instead? The more you care about gay the more you must be covering up that inside you are gay… yes when you *** you are thinking about a dude. I know this is how the mind works. Observe many a closet freak. Just say it… I’m gay or bi even. Its okay.

  78. Demond says:

    palins patriotic??? oh brother. Obama worked himself to where he is. He wasn’t a beauty queen from a well to do family. Only thing about him is he’s black… and white america can’t stand it. That’s all. Palin is so patriotic that she couldn’t even say what paul revere did right after she was at the exibit for it… she should know to begin with if she were so patriotic but she’s so dense she couldn’t even remember what the tour guide told her a few minutes prior

  79. Demond says:

    I guess you woudnt want to be distracted when your lover cheats on you with another man? Dude hating gay is the ultimate (especially when you have to type it on here). YOU ARE GAY… we know it. You just don’t want anyone to know so you bash everyone else about it. Basic psychology.

  80. David says:

    AMEN BROTHER, US ARMY 1967–1968 Vietnam!

  81. Demond says:

    okay then if you can’t tell me you retired as a lifer and still are active you are just retarded then and the reason my step brother said the marines are losers. You see the marines need abolished for this simple fact. You say you are better? Please not even. Only difference in marine and army basic is they give you infantry training at the end. If you are signed up for infantry in the Army you go to that training. Only difference I ever see is they teach you in Basic that you are better… you are not. You are a man no different than I. I served as hard and probably sacrificed more than you **** on here spewing your hatred… of which I can tell you are obviously closet gays. If you are too stupid to see the old school marines (as in they fought island to island unable to get supplies) are applying what happened back in the day and short changing the new guys and in order to give yall ****** equipment and you do it they pump you up in basic… brainwashing so you don’t care. If you call that good so be it I call it your superiors selling you out because they want to feel like they are in control and powerful at your expense. I have a step brother that worked through the ranks enlisted to at least Major in active duty. He said F’ the marines they are dumb *** losers. If all you have is your uniform… I feel sorry for you. Open your eyes if you are not actively serving and let go of the brainwashing.

  82. Jerry says:

    Preach on, brother. I have to say that I was just as proud of my AF BDUs as anyone else is/was of theirs in any other service. Since these “other” people are so proud, maybe they should be forced to wear a uniform of a different color. Maybe a rainbow patch. Just so the rest of us would know who they were.

    • amy says:

      That’s not a bad idea. After all they got the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy removed further proving they want to be labelled.

    • Bz says:

      “Don’t you think our enemies see this crap and just sit back and laugh becuase they know we are destroying ourselves from within?”

      Actually some of the best warriors in history have been gays, so your persecution of this MARINE and MARINES like him for being gay is ridiculous. While I agree wearing any part of his uniform on film while shooting **** is conduct unbecoming a MARINE, as a MARINE you need to acknowledge that great warrior societies long before ours had rampant homosexual activity (Spartans, Samurais) and stop being so afraid of gays, because the MARINE in the fighting pit next to you may very well be gay. Dont ask, dont tell never mattered to me as a Heterosexual MARINE, because I knew that other MARINES were going to be gay whether I knew or not.

      Why are you all so afraid of something that has nothing to do with you? If a serviceman/woman wants to be a ***** on libo then who cares its their libo, its a “free” county (though I use that term loosely because we are far from free), and isnt that what we all fight for!?

      Semper Fi Devils

    • Chris says:

      Hey BZ, I would like to see a citation on your assertion that some of the best warriors in history have been gays, and that “great warrior societies long before ours had rampant homosexual activity (Spartans, Samurais)”

      That is a false accusation cooked up by gay activists. The Spartans were notoriously discriminatory of gays, they held the other Greek armies in low esteem because of their pederasty. Pederasty was never acceptable in Sparta.

      Same with the Samurai. The Japanese have never been tolerant of homosexuality, and a culture that valued ritual suicide as much as they did practically forced it on dudes who liked to screw dudes.

    • Bz says:

      You may very well be right about it being gay propaganda, but it makes sense to me that men who dedicated their whole lives to combat wouldn’t have much time to take wives. Its not that far fetched an accusation, and being I’m still a young man and that is the way I was indoctrinated by my history teachers it seems pretty relevant to me that some ancient civilizations did not frown upon pederasty.

    • Bz says:

      Or it is as you say, and there may have been isolated incidents as there is in our modern society, which isn’t really that much different than the societies we’re talking about now.

      The fact that you think there is enough gay propagandists to convince so many people that this stuff happened tells me that if gays are that widespread in our society then they must have always been. Homosexuality is not brand new, sorry.

    • Butler says:

      Make them wear a patch? Why just them? You could also make others wear patches — different colors for different groups, right?
      http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​N​a​z​i​_​c​o​n​c​e​n​t​r​a​t​i​o​n_c…

      Kinda like the nazis.

    • Butler says:

      I’m somewhat surprised at all of the comments claiming ignorance of this aspect of military history.

      For Chris, who asked for citations:

      It’s all on Wikipedia, with primary sources listed below the main articles:

      Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient Greece:
      http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​H​o​m​o​s​e​x​u​a​l​i​t​y​_​i​n​_​the…

      Homosexuality in Japan:
      http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​H​o​m​o​s​e​x​u​a​l​i​t​y​_​i​n​_​Jap…

      and
      http://​www​.samurai​-weapons​.net/​s​a​m​u​r​a​i​-​h​i​s​t​o​r​y​/wa…

      and since ancient Japan borrowed cultural practices from China:

      Homosexuality in China:
      http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​H​o​m​o​s​e​x​u​a​l​i​t​y​_​i​n​_​Chi…

      Lastly, for those who deny the presence of homosexuality in warriors great or otherwise, I direct your attention to the person of the son of Philip II of Macedonia, also know as Iskandar or Alexander the Great:
      http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​A​l​e​x​a​n​d​e​r​_​t​h​e​_​G​r​eat

      Lastly, one study worthy of notice demonstrated that men espousing a view of homophobia and intolerance towards gays tend to get erections when watching images of gay pornography, which is known as “Latent” or “Repressed” Homosexuality:
      http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​L​a​t​e​n​t​_​h​o​m​o​s​e​x​u​a​l​ity…

      Put simply, the guys that talk the loudest about hating gays are themselves likely of having homosexual desires.

      Me? I don’t care what consenting adults do. I don’t have to like people getting slobber all over each other in a bar, be they gay or straight or whatever falls in between.

      Point is, if you have a problem with what other people do behind closed doors, you need to ask yourself why is it that such things bother you so much? Aren’t we all free Americans?

  83. Demond says:

    oh brother, I feel for your loss but I have only read hatred spewed from “your marines”

  84. Demond says:

    well said randy. If only we didn’t have so many closet gays (mostly republicans too; heck they carry a bible with them to pray their way from gaydom) sigh oh well. well said. No one should have known about the ****. How did anyone find out is a question not answered in this article. All that is focused is he did gay **** and not any real information beyond that.

  85. Jarhead says:

    Will

    Thanks for the comments. Correction, Marines don’t wear cammies in public because Marines are not allowed to wear them in public. We also have our own way of weeding out the weak.

  86. KansasRock says:

    Is there any shame left in society? Lord, I am so thankful I retired 7 years ago.

    USN– 1981–2004

  87. Demond says:

    marines need to be absolved. Higher ups are the problem. They do not properly equip and supply hence you get used first now adays (cheap fodder). All politics of old marines throwing their balls around at you the new marines expense. As in I remember when we did this in our island campain in WW2… yup the resupply ships were unavailable… doesn’t mean you shoot for fighting w/o resupply or proper equipment to begin with. This is a travesty that starts at the top. Of course they need to instill pride… DO YOU NOT THINK THE ARMY DOES TOO! I’m highly offended by these marines on this forum. Further the gay bashing is funny because I know you are closet wanna be’s.

  88. KansasRock says:

    True! But disgusting never the less. He has shamed the USMC.

    • Proud USMC Wife says:

      I completely agree… I’m so disgusted… I’ve seen this Marine Corps go soooo soft over the last 18 years… It’s a damn shame too because they are losing the people that define what the Marine Corps stands for. Effeminate men don’t scare me… do we think the Chinese or N. Koreans will quiver in their presence?? I think not…

    • If you pop a ***** when you look at these photographs, you are gay and should not be allowed in the shower with any other male individual. If you get an erection when you look at these photographs, you are gay and should not be allowed in the shower with any other male individuals. If you get a chubby when you look at these photographs, you are gay and should not be allowed in the shower with any other male individuals. Man on Man *** should be prohibited, Man on Man *** creates rape victims and will not be tolerated. If you are in any way turned on or attracted to any of the males in the photographs, you are gay and should be hung by the neck untill you are dead.

  89. yankee says:

    I know the USA is trying to please everyone. But, when are we going draw the line. He is discriminating the military. The military is suppose to be tough. Now it is OK to let a male soldier to be feminine. When two men are gay one of them are feminime.
    I was in for 23 years and if we had a gay soldier they kept it a secret. That is the way it should.
    Military don’t bring there family problems to work and mess up your head. Got to keep your head in the action.

    • Russell C Lewis says:

      A class in basic English would help before you post your insanely idiotic ideas.
      If you think military people don’t bring their problems to work, you obviously have never served a day in uniform.

      • Trygve says:

        Thank you Russell! Reading that train wreck was giving me a headache on top of a headache.
        I have friends who have married masculine woman…or affeminate men, and have you never seen two attractive woman together, or two manly men?? Neither one has to resort to acting manly or feminine to make the relationship work. Love is about loving the person, not about resorting to gender roles. I love playing with my guns but I also can iron and bake a cake.

    • I went to basic training during the Gulf War era in the early 90’s. If someone admitted they were *****, they would get a blanket party untill they were so brused up, they couldnt pee without it hurting. Qeers are the worst perverted, messed up in the head child molested idiots to ever walk the face of the earth.

      • randy says:

        . You’re probably an ugly out of shape closet queen who would love to go down on this guy. Gays have always been in the military and now there’ll be gays IN CHARGE of people that think like you. Go back to the basement and take care of yourself because you probably don’t have a life.

  90. Demond says:

    exactly fantasy; that’s what the kid was portraying in the **** he made. who cares unless you are jealous of the guy? I haven’t seen the movie to judge any UCMJ issues. But as I’ve said in another post technically mis-wearing a uniform can get you in trouble. So if we wanted to persecute the guy we’d have to see the movie. We all acknowledge he did some gay stuff … what we don’t know until we see. Frankly I don’t care enough to confirm. He will bleed the same as any other marine if needed.

  91. Demond says:

    at least you got it right at the end… any time you have to oppress other people that are different means you are suppressing something inside since what they do has no effect on you.

  92. Demond says:

    not fair if it’s not permitted its not permitted; but if the door’s open I know I’ll be doing **** on my first leave after I get back in da Army… I hope straight **** pays that much wow! Heck I’d probably pay to be in the **** LoL. My only reason for jumping into this thread is the focus on this guy being gay. Disrespecting the uniform okay we have no idea to what extend only a snippet of text (sorry I’m not trying to watch it so I guess he’s gonna have to be given a mulligan on this one) but when you talk about peter puffing and what not… it’s not about the uniform it’s about you are jealous that he’s openly gay and you are afraid to say it. PERIOD.

  93. Demond says:

    um…
    cleanest bodies, filithiest minds, highest morale, and lowest morals, God bless the United States Marine Corps

    filthiest minds and lowest morals…

    Marine Corp needs abolished. Absolutely no need for it anymore. Just another budget that shorts the troops so the higher ups can retain their seats of power and talk about the good old days.

  94. Demond says:

    no he’s gay and ****** yall are focusing on the fact he did gay ****. Only one maybe two comments regarding any kind of **** kicks you to the curb in any branch.

    Furthermore yall spew the BS you are taught in basic (mind you no different than Army basic if you are infantry). When you start saying you are better I have a problem with that. We are all on the same team. We all earned our uniforms. My last uniform with the 1st Air Cav had unit citations on it that were old as dirt compared to me. We take as much pride in the uniform as the next. Not all soldiers do … same goes for not all marines (obviously) … hmm because we are all humans (the SAME EQUAL). You do not go through some super human test. It’s an insult and you all sound ridiculous armchairing it here. The marines are unfortunately abused troops from what I know. Just because they use you for fodder as in they don’t properly equip and supply you, doesn’t make you better, but you have to think that or you wouldn’t continue being a Marine… get it? Not your fault but open your eyes a minute and see the ruse pulled over your eyes.

  95. Demond says:

    well said and not what they meant… they were just gay bashing. I agree 100 percent with you Greg… well said.

  96. Demond says:

    another two good posts on topic.. both well said.

    if any part of this uniform were worn then he has issues with UCMJ in the sense of improper use of uniform (I forget what but it’s definitly a no go in any branch). He more than likley is an attention grabber unbecomming of any branch but I don’t want to prejudge in any way since I don’t know him or this situation at hand. Only that a marine did gay **** (the same as the rest of us).

  97. Demond says:

    Frank: because he is pasty skin looking? He’s a red head dude did you even look at the picture? I’m white but not pasty skin colored. Like did you ever watch **** the pasty white chicks with black guys? Offsetting colors seem to be the rage in ****.

    But Dave I agree if he wore the uniform incomplete he should be held accountable for that (but don’t the military have better things to be worrying about right now?)

  98. Demond says:

    why?

  99. Demond says:

    lol well at Ft. Hood across from our air base on West Fort Hood there was an Air Force base. I was jealous when we’d be flying out to train in the field and they didn’t :-) Heck I was a crewchief on the old scout birds (Kiowa; not the D model). The big joke in the Army is don’t do Air Force maintenance. As in don’t look at the aircraft next to yours and then just make yours look like it. Overall there is back and forth among the branches, pride if you will. But when you go further than joking around then your telliing me that you are mindless and programmed to think you are better (so you will do things that a normal person wouldn’t; fine if you must any infantryman in the army would do no worse than a marine; except they ill equip the marines because they learned they could in WW2) Abolish the Marines already I say. We don’t need them since no more conventional wars will be taking place in an island campain.

  100. Steve Helms says:

    Extremely well said, its very sad that the “looms” that have never served in the military or understand the discipline required to maintain a strong military are the ones forcing this garbage on them. Thank you for your service!!
    Retired USCG 1972–1992

    • Very well said. The services definitely don’t have the same standards as they did when a lot of us served the world’s greatest military.

      Retired USN 1968–1992

    • Stogie26a says:

      I’m sorry to say for many of those in the military today it a way to pay for college, or they need a job & couldn’t find one on the “outside.” Yes I know the standards are higher than Vietnam era. I joined the Army to service my country! Not because I wanted a job or to pay for school. Sorry…I had just as much “PRIDE” in my Army uniform as any Marine had in his. It’s in your heart…besides you walk the street today and the uniform is in the fashion (and they trash it). I’m sorry to see that this is what this Marine saw fit to do with his uniform, when so many good man & women have died for his uniform. I could care less if this one is gay good for him, it’s what he did with that uniform. Welcome home to all of you.

  101. TOP WOOD says:

    All military personnel whether “on-duty or off duty” have an inherent obligation to comply with the oath of allegiance that we swore to when we rasied our right hand to uphold Constitution of the United States of America. If Sergeant Matthews once to be a “**** Star” then he best do it after he separates from active duty and not while he is still under contract to the USMC and the USA. If he wants to wear some form of outfit, then I suggest he wear that of a ‘*******’ because his actions are a slap in the face to all military personnel and family members who serve this country with dignity, pride in the uniform that we wear, and the comradery that comes with serving this great nation. 1SG Wood, Army, Retired

  102. richard says:

    This is just the beginning-Military doors have been opened-our ranks are falling apart they got their way.
    There is an old Corps one of character-no more

  103. CSM Jerome Smith says:

    Bottom Line Up Front: This Marine should be discharged not for being gay or announcing it to the world, BUT for violations of the UCMJ. So just because this Marine is male and decided to out himself in a **** movie does not violate DADT, but Marine values, ethics and morale conduct.

    Basis: Twenty years or so ago a very beautiful female Marine posed nude for Playboy and was immediately processed for discharge for ” conduct unbecoming a Marine”. Career over, no mercy or appeal given.

    He’s got to go or you have just set a new standard, a double standard at that.

    CSM Smith

    • Gregg says:

      Agreed, I have heard of many cases where a service member was punished and discharged for acting in pornographic situations.
      I have heard of service members being punished for much less offensive uses of the Uniform as well.

      Because he has an alternative lifestyle makes it OK?

      I guess the new chant will now be

      “If it’s Gay, then it’s OK!”

      So much fore no Discrimination.

  104. Mike says:

    I’m a civilian. My dad was Navy Commissioned. My uncles were Gunnies, they taught me to spell it GOD. This decision bothers me.
    Back in the 80’s, an USAF Chief of Staff, of a known Christian and conservative persuasion had his daily briefing start off with the word an Airwoman had posed nude for a magazine I forget. His question, “Was she in uniform.” “Ah, no sir, she was naked.” “So it doesn’t matter to the Air Force. Next issue.

    For the last 20 or 30 years female members have posed nearly nude in chief’s blouses, Officer blouses, USMC Blues, etc. All were discharged for the blend of uniform and nudity. Sorry, AF, but I don’t recall any gals half in your uniform, you bus drivers really do have uniforms that suck.

    It is not usual for a court to ignore precedents, but this decision flies in the face of a lot of prior decisions. Most of you are assuming this is Obama’s fault. I can’t help but wonder if some senior officers didn’t load a court with judges that would hand down an explosive decision that can’t hold water.

    I’m no expert on military law and process but am I right, this decision requires review? Seems to me we have yet to really hear from the political appointees. I strongly suspect there will be more to this before its over.

    Just a respectful civilians two cents worth.

    • Tom says:

      Mike.…How about a nice hot steaming cup of ****.
      “Airwoman posed nude”. What’s an Airwoman?

      “Sorry, AF, but I don’t recall any gals half in your uniform, you bus drivers really do have uniforms that suck”

      Who are you calling a bus driver? You got some nerve sitting in you polo shirt and Kakis, my uncle & my father, what about you?

    • don says:

      MIKE.…..We didn’t get to design our own uniforms, but I’m certainly proud that I served for four years. How about you?

  105. CSM H says:

    I have to agree with a post from above that it doesn’t matter about the hetero or homosexual part of this rather the unbecoming of a Marine, Soldier, Sailor, Airmen or Coast Guardsman. This type of conduct isn’t just being allowed, but encouraged by the media and people not associated with the military. People that haven’t served don’t understand that what is good for every citizen of this country isn’t the same for servicemembers of any branch. We have a subsequent legal system in the UCMJ because it deals with military specific issues. It is not a rubber stamp like civilian laws. This is what upsets me when military related issues are being spread across mainstream America for their two cents.
    Take the Navy CPT this past year that was relieved from his command for his actions as an XO aboard a ship. Childish antics and perhaps being insensitive to some, but ask his Sailors what they thought of it and they laughed for the most part. Play the skit on mainstream liberal media and they want his head. It is a different world and lifestyle for us that those who haven’t served have no understanding.
    Discharge the Marine for conduct unbecoming of a Marine and non-commissioned officer…even though he was a band member. Probably played the skin flute…okay obviously he played that well.

    • You might like getting it in the butt, not everyone appreciates the erection. As a matter of fact, if I had it my way, you would never get an erection again as long as you live.

      • Butler says:

        Hey Tony, how about laying off the threats? It just makes people on this forum look ignorant and uneducated, and I’d like to hold to a higher standard.

        Disagree all you want, but try to keep from threatening other posters, OK?

  106. DRS says:

    So, how was his acting? I wish they’d focus on if he had any raw talent or not. :-)

  107. Russell Lewis says:

    I think all of us are jealous because we couldn’t get $10,000 to be in heterosexual **** like this guy did for being in gay ****.
    And for all of us who respect the chain of command and the rule of military law… they found him not guilty, so, shut the **** up and let it rest. Otherwise the complainers sound like people who are just itching to say something about the dirty ***** doing **** and just don’t have the balls to do so.

    • ReconBn75 says:

      I don’t know if you were ever in the service much less the Marine Corps. I was on active duty and still am a former Marine.

      He denigrated the uniform of every Marine as well as our reputation throughout the world. A previous post speaking to how the rest of the planet and especially our enemies will relish this story is an unfortunate truth.

      This is a clear Article 15 under the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), Conduct unbecoming a Marine. He should be given his Dishonorable Discharge to go with his movie credits–after practicing his abilities during 15 years of hard time.

      And while it is worse in my mind to use his military status in gay ****, it would still have been a clear Article 15 in hetero-**** as well. Whatever a person does in his private should be his business PRIVATELY–but the uniform is ‘ours’.

      Two hundred thirty six years tarnished by one ‘bama (started by a previous draft dodger / service evader in the executive branch) and the ‘enlightened’ population. A truly sad, sad day.

      • Bz says:

        Our military never had a pristine reputation in the rest of the world, sorry you’ve been so brainwashed. last i checked, we’re the evil empire.

        SEMPER FIDELIS

    • Obviously you have never been sexually asaulted by a homosexual. The military teaches discipline. That means no erection or any kind of intercourse with a member of the same ***. I bench 250 pounds, I ride a bike 1000 miles in a week. I could probably take just about any Marine, Army, Navy, or Airforce member that is in my weight class. I am not joking. When there is 5 homosexuals against one in the shower, you do not have a choice.

      • cathy hunley says:

        are you saying you were raped by 5 gay men? have you been in counciling> womem rape victims have a lot of fear and anger. ptsd is a very real problem. get help but donnt blame all gay men for wht a few did to you.

  108. J. M. Malecki says:

    as I understand it don’t ask don’t tell is no longer the rule. I can accept that but are there not articles in the UCJM that prevent sodimy and ***********. this case should have one or the other on tape and both are 20 years hard labor. At least that was what my gunny on more than one occasion would tell us before liberty in the PI or Korea. seem like he has a better paying career in the movies anyway.

  109. DVLDAWG9999 says:

    Disgrace a total Disgrace the ones in here defending such a conduct that blatantly violate good order and discipline get out of the @##%$%$! closet, go be his co-star, make as much money you can to pay for your own $%#@@% medical care when you catch HIV; but make sure you wear nothing than can come close to resemble a U.S. Military Uniform. You do not need to wear uniform or say you are in the military to be a famous *** and make lots of money RUSSELL

  110. Orion says:

    The disgrace started years ago…far before this guy was born:
    With the ranking officers sending black soldiers out to the front lines first, because they were considered ‘more expendable’.
    With service members killing other service members they considered were ‘gay’.
    With the military trying to cover up such actions.
    With military contracts being given to ‘who gives the best perks’.
    With a command structure that empowers politics over integrity.
    With a Bush-administration bill that puts post-9/11 soldiers in a higher class than previous soldiers (I’m a 2nd-class veteran now, thank you, Bush).

    I do not condone the association of any portion of a military uniform with such activity, or in associating a member of pornography with the military — but I think the ideals I believed the military held have long ago been eroded by crimes far worse than this one.
    This is nothing unexpected.

    • Michael says:

      It was only a matter of time before some jerk-off brought up the race card!

      • I'm Just Saying says:

        Michael, don’t be a dumbass and confuse the issue with your own inadequacies. Orion quotes history of society and the views it had on pretty much any race, other than white. There should be a caption and requirement for making comments here, “stick to the subject at hand”, we’re talking about the U.S. Marine choosing the wrong way to come out of the closet.

    • Gregg says:

      Why is it Bushes Fault? Or Obama for that matter?
      Why not blame Clinton for DADT?
      This is a clear case of Military Courts being afraid of public scorn.
      Boot the idiot for “Conduct unbecoming a Marine and NCO“
      This is our House!

  111. 1836eig says:

    Didn’t a female soldier get into trouble awhile back for just posing nude in a magazine? What’s the diff?

    • Stogie26a says:

      What does NUDE mean?, she had no clothes on! He was wearing part of his uniform! Part of the problem you see uniforms or parts of in the everyday fashion. I’m a Vietnam veteran…When I was growing it was against the law to wear military gear in public…unless it was yours. Now you can wear almost anything except the MOH.

  112. Big ole Ben says:

    What’s wrong with what he did? It’s ok to be gay in the military now. I along with a few of my gay friends are going in. A lot of gays are now joining! God bless the USA!!!

    • I'm Just Saying says:

      Which service are you and your friends planning to enter? Should go all the way which ever you goto. It’s well known that many, if not all gay men believe physcal attraction is most important and have maintained chiseled physiques. If you or any of your friends fall into the category of physically fit then you should go special operations. What better statement to make than to say, “I’m gay and I’m a Navy Seal, Marine Recon, Air Force PJ, or an Army Delta or Green Beret?

      • I'm Just Saying says:

        But than again we’re talking about U.S. Marine Sgt. Simmons. Good luck with your pursuit.

    • Tom says:

      Join the Navy, you’ll fit in.

      • Jim says:

        With a comment like that you sound like a USMC wannabe or else you are a squrilley little puke just out of P.I. who has not learned to respect all branches of the armed forces

  113. robert padilla says:

    I have one question what happined to the ucmj were sodomy was punishale by court marshal? Has this changed?He should be kicked out of the corps He has shamed all who came before him and tanted my corps
    why didn’t the court address this issue?
    s/sgt R.L.Padilla U.S.M.C. ret.

  114. sherrylabtec says:

    Typical, the military kissing the political *** so they can obtain money from the government to run the programs
    This guy is let off because of OBAMA’s policy of gays in the military. Well, then the females that were put out of the military for being in some form or uniform, whatever branch should be reinbursed for their dismissal from the military and their discharge upgrated to an honorable. If this marines actions where honorable then their was down right patriotic.

  115. Michael Lambirth says:

    Disrespecting the Commander and Chief is a greater offense. President Obama believe in and is committed to upholding the constitutions of this great land of freedom.

    Time to re-assign this soldier to the Infantry. They could use a Marine like this around venomous snakes. Should you get a bite on your lower half just call ole Sgt Simmons!

  116. amy says:

    Amen! I’m a proud USMC brat and veteran USN member. I always took my uniform seriously and still have immense pride for our military. It’s truly sad that the gay community is making a mockery of our armed forces.

    • Bz says:

      How is it mockery for men and women who served just like you and I to want the liberty to be themselves without fear of retaliation?

  117. TrueGrit says:

    Marine Corps SGT made a **** flick while still in the service. Would it be ok for the pres to do the same while in office? Would you be supportive of your 1SG or Co Commander doing the same and finging out right before you head into battle? Hang em’ high.

  118. John V. Smith says:

    Very well stated Will!

  119. Crystal Jozefick says:

    I think that the wearing of the military uniform in that type of situation is a disgrace to the militray and to the United States. I was extremely proud to wear my uniform when I was in the Army and I would not tait the uniform in any way!

  120. John V. Smith says:

    Amen!

  121. Richard says:

    Make me want to puke.
    Gy Sgt USMC 1973–1995

  122. Dennis says:

    I am so proud of the Marine uniform that I make sure that every time I dress, I make sure that everything is in alignment. From the shirt , belt buckle, to Trousers. Marines know what I’m talking about. RVN Marine.

    • Stogie26a says:

      I did too Marine…I was RVN Army. My uniform may not have been as sharp. But I alway thought it was the man who made the uniform, not the other way around. Welcome Home Marine!! VN 68–69!

  123. Stogie26a says:

    I agree with you Marine on att your points but one. I serviced in the Army in Vietynam, and I can tell you I always had then and still do now respect for my uniform. Our was not as snappy as yours, but I respected it when ever I put it on. I have serviced in color & honor guards in my veterans groups after military service. STILL wearing the uniform with pride.

  124. francette says:

    augh, yuck. what. are you thinking about? is 10g worth i it?

  125. Rick says:

    How can an NCO, (Sgt. in the Marine Corps)(even a member of the band) be expected to command men who have become aware of his actions. How could an Officer have faith in an NCO in his command who has so tarnished USMC virtue by commiting these acts. I speak of course in a future setting but how would a squad of grunts in the field react knowing what this NCO has done. If he cannot serve in the future, why not discharge him now? The UCMJ cannot allow this without allowing present actions to alter future events which may easily happen. There is no place in the USMC for this “NCO” now or in the future . he must be discharged under a good or bad conduct, but he must GO.

  126. Ryan says:

    I hope he got **** on the uniform. Honor and the American military do not go hand in hand.

  127. John says:

    I have been in combat,I have beencovered in the blood of my friends.
    I would not want a corpsman not (corpseman) to touch me these days after he has blood on his hands from someone else. there are no gloves in combat, no masks and no time for washing hands.
    Hiv/Aids is only contracted from homosexual contact. direct or indirect.
    I am sad that people put there feel good policies ahead of the best welfare of our country.
    I have no problem with homosexuals.
    I do have a problem with homosexuals in combat!
    Semper Fi.

  128. Shipdriver says:

    Now that the US military has been transformed into the US MiliFerry, it’s downright disgusting. I personally believe (concerning the Navy), all the homos should have their own ship, the USS Rainbow FF69, or the USS Butterfly, I could see the action on the Bridge now, what a shame.

    Read your history, every big nation that crumbled from within, crumbled when they embraced homosexuality as being normal.

  129. D F stuckey says:

    When will people realise that the old traditions are the best?
    When will they realise that the Great man was right about the gays and make our society decent?
    When will they realise that The Great Man was right about smoking, and stop people dying in their droves?
    When will they realise the Great man was right about the cause of world unrest and stop the Palestinian genocide?
    When will they realise that women are happy in church, hearth and with their children and save them from the slavery of the workplace?
    When will they call a halt to damaging experiments, ownership and consumption of the precious animal life of this world?

    When will Our Great leader be seen as what the world needs again and once more bring back the phrase of morality, equality, decency, loyalty, environmental safety and service that is encapsulated in that simpel phrase — “Heil Hitler”?

    From a simple decent person who loves America and is vilified for his countrymen for it.

    • Butler says:

      The “Great Man” you’re referencing? Hitler?

      Interesting fact. The sole remaining members of Hitler’s bloodline has agreed amongst themselves to never have children so as to ensure the bloodline dies out in this generation. The man is regarded as so incredibly wrong about so many things that the world regards him as an icon not for good old-fashioned family values, but for blind unreasoning hatred, intolerance, and outright evil.

      Of all things, posting on a website dedicated to Veterans is amazing gall.

  130. CHARLIE says:

    HEY JERRY WE DON’T WANT TO PUT A RAINBOW PATCH ON THIS GUY. EVER HEAR THE RAINBOW DIVISION? IT HAS A RICH MILITARY HISTORY THAT INCLUDES SOLDIERS IN WW1, WW11, EVERY CONFLICT SINCE AND TODAY.

  131. Old Corps says:

    Well said Will — Wonder what CHESTY would say???

  132. Right on! Send them ****** back in to the closet, where they belong!

  133. I gave a comment to several people listed above. Now it is my turn. No more homosexuals in the military, period. None. Stay out of the Military you freaks of nature. We do not want Homosexuals in the Military. No. No. No. No. No. I am not Homosexual, I am not Gay, I like Women, Not Men. No Homosexuals in the Military, Period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  134. LEN MACKIN says:

    GLAD I SERVED A LONG TIME AGO 63–73.

    FORMER SSGT USMC 3 TOURS NAM

  135. g2_man68 says:

    So military members who put on a few pounds or don’t shave properly or have a proper hair cut, present a poor image of the military and should be counseled and or punished but playing amature proctologist on film in portions of your uniform and stating you are in the military associated with the above mentioned film is ok and presents a good positive image?

  136. Kritman says:

    What era do we live in and where do we live. I am ashamed of the homophobic rants, calling for lynching and assuming that only homosexuals have aids. The last time I checked we were the United States of America. First to fight for rights and freedom. All rights not just the ones you believe in. And to keep our honor clean. On that note I think they should throw him out on his ***. Not for making gay ****, but for being in a **** in general. Should never be allowed while serving.

  137. Ron says:

    Obviously this guy doesn’t know what it takes to be a Marine; he plays for the Marine Corp Band. Pretty much he is a wanna be Marine. Honor the uniform, the traditions, and those who die defending this country. If they want to be F***s do it once they get out.

  138. Johnathan Humphries says:

    this forum should be taking down and i’m going to speak to someone at corporate that it does, you “men” should be ashamed of your selves (lynching, killing) someone because of there sexual orientation, as a black male and soldier who has been on tour twice in Iraq and father of a bisexual son I find this forum offensive and disgusting and your igornance is one of many…

    I stand 6’5, 268lbs and if i were to ever see or hear about anyone on base or anywhere in the US treating my son the way you veterans,active members, marine corps whatever you would’ve a big problem on your hands

  139. Bz says:

    Thanks for posting those links Butler. I lost the patience for this argument before it even started.

  140. Bz says:

    Thanks for posting those links Butler. I lost the patience for this argument before it even started. It boggles my mind as well.

  141. Bz says:

    the spartans werent adverse to pederasty, they just didnt agree with the practice of using it as the basis for unit formation.

  142. Rachel says:

    It’s never been more obvious that our country’s armed forces target the less-educated to join the military– your comments are astounding with ignorance, misinformation, bigotry, and hate.

    I can’t wait until our socially and educationally progressive country swallows all of you whole.

    • John says:

      Ther is a difference between less educated and ill educated. Maybe the socially and educationally progressives such put up or shut up! Every one has the right to speak but I wonder of the bigotry in your comment and what you mean by swallow up? (Silence,Kill,re-educate?)

  143. Michael says:

    Oh well, I agree with the late Arizona senator and prez candidate in ’64 vs.LBJ, Barry Goldwater, who said years ago, “I don’t care if our men and women in the military are gay or straight…what counts is whether they can SHOOT STRAIGHT to kill our enemies…”

  144. Mama Weller says:

    Well said Amy. No matter what sexual orientation one is, wearing that uniform is an honor, and a privilege. I am very pro-rainbow, and have nothing against ****, but I am ashamed of that Marine for his abhorrent, and flagrant abuse of a uniform. He should be dishonorably discharged.

  145. dizzy says:

    As retired military — branch really does not matter — we are all brothers (and sisters) in arms — I feel this individuals behavior brought discredit to the armed forces. At least prior to when I retired, we were taught that our actions influenced the view civilians (American, allies, and enemies) had of all military members. Posing for pornography or “acting” in **** films should not be acceptable for military members, male, female, or other.

    Read more: http://​undertheradar​.military​.com/​2​0​1​1​/​1​0​/​c​o​u​r​t-s…
    Under the Radar

  146. rezaul622 says:

    I’m so sick of (dudes using) Danish people as the measuring stick of “healthy “progressive” European freedom. Yes, they can smoke do heroin and look at prostituted women in red-lit windows drunk on Guiness after smoking expensive hash in a cafe. Therefore they know everything there is to know about life? Durr.
    Jeff

  147. Tyler says:

    @Retired AF WSO The Air Force Business Suit may not be as good looking as marine enlisted wear, but it’s still a symbol of the service that should be treated as sacred.

    But some people’s prejudice against our sister services really gets on my nerves. When I’m downrange, I don’t give a crap if I’m sitting next to an airman, marine, soldier, or one of the few sailors I see out there. I know that they took an oath for my constitution, and that at the end of the day I can count on them. Marines may have a lot of team spirit regarding their “Warrior Ethos,” but it’s no reason to talk down to any service. Marines would have one **** of a time getting their beans, bullets, and bandages without the Air Force, and Airmen would probably have to be dealing with a more dangerous time downrange if not for the Marines.
    Remember, we’re all part of a bigger team.

    (ps. With regards to the story, I’d have him out of my service so quickly he’d leave skidmarks. I was taught all the way back in JROTC that wearing the uniform to anything not sanctioned by the C/O was tantamount to suicide, because it reflected poorly upon not only us, but the Active duty services as well.)

  148. Ann says:

    Not all Marine Band members have to go to boot camp. The President’s Own are almost entirely made up of conservatory trained musicians since it’s much more difficult to get that level of precision from high school kids. It’s also much easier to bargain with some poor ******* who owes six figures to Julliard, and realizes the Boston Philharmonic won’t pay the bills. The They never go to boot camp, and are automatically given the rank of SSgt or higher.

    Either way this ‘Semper I’ doofus should’ve been worrying about what ever other real Marine is: deploying, preparing to deploy, or supporting the overall mission. As a gay Marine veteran I think this guy is an embarrassment who is whoring out the uniform and his status for some quick cash.

  149. Sgt T says:

    Greg, you speak so highly educated. The whole point is, who cares what his sexual preference is, its the fact that he digraced my uniform by wearing during this act. I dont care what he does in his off time, or what his sexual preferences are, but if you are a Marine, than you are a Marine 24/7. So that Honor, Courage, and Commitment, that this so called Marine learned in Recruit Training, needs to be put back into this undisciplined body of his.